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  <front>
    <title>Signalling a Zone Cut to Nowhere in the DNS</title>
    <seriesInfo name="Internet-Draft" value="draft-jabley-dnsop-zone-cut-to-nowhere-01"/>
    <author fullname="Joe Abley">
      <organization>Cloudflare</organization>
      <address>
        <email>jabley@cloudflare.com</email>
      </address>
    </author>
    <author fullname="Wes Hardaker">
      <organization>USC/ISI</organization>
      <address>
        <email>ietf@hardakers.net</email>
      </address>
    </author>
    <author fullname="Warren Kumari">
      <organization>Google, Inc.</organization>
      <address>
        <email>warren@kumari.net</email>
      </address>
    </author>
    <date year="2026" month="June" day="23"/>
    <area>Operations and Management</area>
    <workgroup>Domain Name System Operations</workgroup>
    <keyword>DNS</keyword>
    <keyword>DNSSEC</keyword>
    <keyword>zone cut</keyword>
    <keyword>delegation</keyword>
    <keyword>referral</keyword>
    <abstract>
      <?line 76?>

<t>This document defines a standard mechanism to signal the existence of a DNS
zone cut without specifying authoritative nameservers for the delegated child
zone. This "zone cut to nowhere" is particularly useful in split-horizon
environments, allowing parent zones to explicitly signal that a child zone
exists but is only resolvable within a private namespace.</t>
    </abstract>
    <note removeInRFC="true">
      <name>About This Document</name>
      <t>
        The latest revision of this draft can be found at <eref target="https://ableyjoe.github.io/draft-jabley-dnsop-zone-cut-to-nowhere/draft-jabley-dnsop-zone-cut-to-nowhere.html"/>.
        Status information for this document may be found at <eref target="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jabley-dnsop-zone-cut-to-nowhere/"/>.
      </t>
      <t>
        Discussion of this document takes place on the
        Domain Name System Operations Working Group mailing list (<eref target="mailto:dnsop@ietf.org"/>),
        which is archived at <eref target="https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dnsop/"/>.
        Subscribe at <eref target="https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop/"/>.
      </t>
      <t>Source for this draft and an issue tracker can be found at
        <eref target="https://github.com/ableyjoe/draft-jabley-dnsop-zone-cut-to-nowhere"/>.</t>
    </note>
  </front>
  <middle>
    <?line 85?>

<section anchor="introduction">
      <name>Introduction</name>
      <t>The DNS protocol, as originally specified in <xref target="RFC1034"/> and
<xref target="RFC1035"/>, describes a single, global, hierarchical namespace
that is separated into zones. The boundary between a parent zone
and a child zone is indicated using a zone cut. Zone cuts are
specified using specific resource records which are published within
the parent and child zones; the parent-side resource records are
revealed during DNS resolution by way of referral responses from
nameservers.</t>
      <t>Private DNS namespaces also exist, and are commonly used in enterprise and
corporate environments, where a portion of the namespace is only accessible
within the organization, using internal DNS infrastructure. This is often
referred to as "split" DNS. A user of a private network might be able to
resolve names using local DNS infrastructure that are not visible to other
users of other networks.</t>
      <t>When a device or application uses the DNS protocol to resolve both
internal names and external names published in the global DNS
namespace, ambiguity can result. For example, DNS responses from
Internet-reachable nameservers might indicate that a particular
name published in an internal namespace does not exist, while an
internal nameserver might be configured to respond differently.
Since mobile devices can attach to different networks and can cache
DNS responses obtained from different namespaces, this ambiguity
can cause issues. A DNSSEC-aware resolver on a mobile device
might cache a signed, negative response from an external nameserver
for a particular name and might treat a subsequent, positive response
from an internal nameserver for the same name as bogus, preventing
the response from being used by an application.</t>
      <t>This document provides a means of explicitly signalling the existence of a zone
cut in a namespace in circumstances where the child zone only exists in a
different namespace from the parent. We refer to this type of zone cut as a
"zone cut to nowhere" and introduce the corresponding terms "delegation to
nowhere" and "referral to nowhere" in <xref target="definitions"/>.</t>
    </section>
    <section anchor="definitions">
      <name>Conventions and Definitions</name>
      <t>The key words "<bcp14>MUST</bcp14>", "<bcp14>MUST NOT</bcp14>", "<bcp14>REQUIRED</bcp14>", "<bcp14>SHALL</bcp14>", "<bcp14>SHALL
NOT</bcp14>", "<bcp14>SHOULD</bcp14>", "<bcp14>SHOULD NOT</bcp14>", "<bcp14>RECOMMENDED</bcp14>", "<bcp14>NOT RECOMMENDED</bcp14>",
"<bcp14>MAY</bcp14>", and "<bcp14>OPTIONAL</bcp14>" in this document are to be interpreted as
described in BCP 14 <xref target="RFC2119"/> <xref target="RFC8174"/> when, and only when, they
appear in all capitals, as shown here.</t>
      <?line -18?>

<t>This document uses DNS terminology as described in <xref target="RFC9499"/>.
Familiarity with terms defined in that document is assumed.</t>
      <t>This document also uses the following new terms:</t>
      <ol spacing="normal" type="1"><li>
          <t>"Zone cut to nowhere" -- a zone cut where the parent zone
and the child zone are provisioned in different namespaces. A zone
cut to nowhere is a signal provided by the administrator of a parent
zone that a child zone exists, but is not able to be used in the
DNS namespace of the parent.</t>
        </li>
        <li>
          <t>"Delegation to nowhere" -- a delegation from a parent to
a child across a zone cut to nowhere.</t>
        </li>
        <li>
          <t>"Referral to nowhere", "Referral response to nowhere" -- a DNS
response received from a nameserver that reveals the existence
of a delegation to nowhere.</t>
        </li>
      </ol>
    </section>
    <section anchor="publishing-a-delegation-to-nowhere">
      <name>Publishing a Delegation to Nowhere</name>
      <t>A zone cut to nowhere is implemented in a parent zone using a single
NS resource record with an empty target (an empty NSDNAME, in the
parlance of <xref target="RFC1035"/>). A zone cut to nowhere between the parent
zone <tt>EXAMPLE.ORG</tt> and the child zone <tt>DUCKLING.EXAMPLE.ORG</tt> with
a TTL of 3600 seconds would be described in zone file syntax as
follows:</t>
      <artwork><![CDATA[
        ; zone data published in an external nameserver

        $ORIGIN EXAMPLE.ORG.

        ; the zone DUCKLING.EXAMPLE.ORG exists, but in another
        ; namespace

        DUCKLING  3600  IN  NS  .
]]></artwork>
      <t>A zone cut to nowhere may also be provisioned as a secure delegation.
This allows a DNSSEC-aware consumer of a referral response to obtain
and cache a DNSSEC trust anchor for the child zone, for use when
it is able to receive a signed response from a nameserver that
includes the child zone in its namespace.</t>
      <artwork><![CDATA[
        $ORIGIN EXAMPLE.ORG.

        ; the signed zone PUPPY.EXAMPLE.ORG exists,
        ; but in another namespace

        PUPPY  3600  IN  DS  [...]
                         NS  .
]]></artwork>
      <t>An NS RRSet in a parent zone which includes multiple NS resource
records is not a delegation to nowhere, even if one of the NS
resource records within the RRSet has an empty target.</t>
      <artwork><![CDATA[
        KITTEN  3600  IN  NS  A.CAT-SERVERS.EXAMPLE.
                          NS  B.CAT-SERVERS.EXAMPLE.
                          NS  .                        ; unusual
                          NS  C.CAT-SERVERS.EXAMPLE.
]]></artwork>
      <t>This NS RRSet does not encode a delegation to nowhere, since other
NS resource records exist in addition to the record with the empty
target (marked with a comment as "unusual"). This configuration may
have some other meaning in a different context, however, and is
specifically not addressed by this specification.</t>
    </section>
    <section anchor="interpreting-a-referral-to-nowhere">
      <name>Interpreting a Referral to Nowhere</name>
      <t>No special processing is necessary in order to interpret a referral
response to nowhere.  Individual RRSets present in a referral
response to nowhere can safely be interpreted and processed in an
identical fashion to any other referral response where the authoritative
servers for the child zone cannot themselves be resolved, and hence
cannot be reached.</t>
      <t>{Editor's note (to be removed before publication): Please see
<xref target="Hardaker2026"/>, and the IEPG recording <xref target="IEPG-IETF125"/>
for real-world testing of this behavior.}</t>
    </section>
    <section anchor="applicability">
      <name>Applicability</name>
      <t>When a child zone is known to exist in another namespace, and when
that other namespace is intended for use with the DNS, a delegation
to nowhere <bcp14>MAY</bcp14> be provisioned in the parent zone to signal that the
child zone exists in some other namespace. In such circumstances
the parent zone <bcp14>MAY</bcp14> be the root zone, or any other zone.</t>
      <t>A secure delegation to nowhere <bcp14>MAY</bcp14> be provisioned if the keys used
for signing in the child zone are known to the administrator of the
parent zone. In the case where differently-signed (or unsigned)
child zones are known to exist in different namespaces, a secure
delegation <bcp14>SHOULD NOT</bcp14> be used.</t>
      <t>The use of a delegation to nowhere in this document is described
for the IN class only. Use of this mechanism in other classes is
not addressed by this specification.</t>
      <t>Name resolution protocols other than the DNS are also used by some
systems, for names that are syntactically equivalent to domain names
in the DNS. In some cases, names resolved by those non-DNS protocols
are anchored in a specific domain that is consequently reserved for
their use in the DNS, to avoid name collisions.  Examples of such
reservations in the DNS are the <tt>LOCAL</tt> top-level domain reserved
for use by Multicast DNS <xref target="RFC6762"/> and the <tt>ALT</tt> top-level domain
reserved use in general for non-DNS resolution protocols <xref target="RFC9476"/>.
Domains that are not intended for use with the DNS as their resolution
protocol <bcp14>SHOULD NOT</bcp14> be provisioned in the DNS as delegations to
nowhere, since there is no DNS namespace ambiguity that such a
configuration could help with.</t>
    </section>
    <section anchor="examples">
      <name>Examples</name>
      <section anchor="internal-namespace-as-a-subdomain-of-a-public-domain">
        <name>Internal Namespace as a Subdomain of a Public Domain</name>
        <t>A company uses names within the <tt>EXAMPLE.COM</tt> domain both for
internal services it provides to its employees and for public
services that are made available to the general public over the
Internet.</t>
        <t>The company also provides certain services that are only available
to users of devices attached to its internal network. Those services
are named within the subdomain <tt>CORP.EXAMPLE.COM</tt>. The company does
not wish those internal services to be visible to external users.</t>
        <t>We say that the <tt>EXAMPLE.COM</tt> zone exists in the global DNS namespace
and that the <tt>CORP.EXAMPLE.COM</tt> zone exists only in a private DNS
namespace.</t>
        <t>The company publishes a <tt>CORP.EXAMPLE.COM</tt> zone on DNS nameservers
attached to its internal network. The company configures the DNS
resolvers used by devices attached to its internal network to be
aware that the <tt>CORP.EXAMPLE.COM</tt> zone is served by those internal
nameservers, such that queries sent from devices inside the company's
network can resolve names in the <tt>CORP.EXAMPLE.COM</tt> domain.</t>
        <artwork><![CDATA[
        $ORIGIN CORP.EXAMPLE.COM.
        ; internal zone only served in our internal network

        @      3600  IN  SOA   [...]

        ; the internal zone CORP.EXAMPLE.COM is served by the internal
        ; nameservers NS1.CORP.EXAMPLE.COM and NS2.CORP.EXAMPLE.COM

                     NS    NS1
                     NS    NS2

        NS1          A     198.51.100.37
                     AAAA  2001:db8:2:1::2c

        NS2          A     203.0.113.56
        NS2          AAAA  2001:db8:2:3::2d

        ; the internal intranet web server is INTRANET.CORP.EXAMPLE.COM

        INTRANET     A     198.51.100.74
                     AAAA  2001:db8:2:1::f8

        ; the management address of an internal network device known
        ; as BACKBONE-SW.CORP.EXAMPLE.COM

        BACKBONE-SW  A     198.51.100.65
]]></artwork>
        <t>The company publishes an <tt>EXAMPLE.COM</tt> zone on nameservers that are
general reachable over the Internet -- that is, the nameservers are
reachable and the <tt>COM</tt> zone returns referrals for the <tt>EXAMPLE.COM</tt>
zone to those nameservers. The EXAMPLE.COM zone includes names that
the company wants clients to be able to resolve regardless of what
network they are connected to.</t>
        <artwork><![CDATA[
        $ORIGIN EXAMPLE.COM.

        ; the public zone EXAMPLE.COM is published to the Internet

        @      3600  IN  SOA   [...]

        ; the public zone EXAMPLE.COM is served by the nameservers
        ; NS1.EXAMPLE.COM and NS2.EXAMPLE.COM which are reachable
        ; over the Internet

                     NS    NS1
                     NS    NS2

        ; Internet mail for EXAMPLE.COM is handled by the server
        ; MAIL.EXAMPLE.COM

                     MX    10 MAIL.EXAMPLE.COM.

        ; The public nameservers NS1.EXAMPLE.COM and NS2.EXAMPLE.COM

        NS1          A     192.0.2.25
        NS1          AAAA  2001:db8:e0::2a

        NS2          A     192.0.2.27
        NS2          AAAA  2001:db8:e0::2b

        ; MAIL.EXAMPLE.COM and WWW.EXAMPLE.COM are intended to be used
        ; from anywhere, not just by internal clients, so they are
        ; named in the global namespace

        MAIL         A     192.0.2.41
        MAIL         A     2001:db8:e0::f1

        WWW          A     192.0.2.58
        WWW          AAAA  2001:db8:e0::5e

        ; CORP.EXAMPLE.COM is our internal namespace. Delegate the
        ; corresponding zone to nowhere

        CORP         NS    .
]]></artwork>
      </section>
      <section anchor="general-purpose-top-level-domain-for-internal-namespaces">
        <name>General Purpose Top-Level Domain for Internal Namespaces</name>
        <t>Suppose it has been decided that the top-level domain <tt>INTERNAL</tt> be
reserved for use in private namespaces. The root zone of the global
DNS is signed using DNSSEC <xref target="RFC4033"/>; that is, DNSSEC-specific
RRSets are published in the root zone that allow DNSSEC-aware
resolvers to be sure with cryptographic certainty whether particular
top-level domains exist in the public namespace.</t>
        <t>A delegation to nowhere for the <tt>INTERNAL</tt> top-level domain in the
root zone of the global DNS namespace would provide an unambiguous
signal to resolvers that <tt>INTERNAL</tt> does exist in other namespaces.
An insecure delegation to nowhere is appropriate in this example
since there is no single trust anchor that could be used to provide
a secure delegation to zones in multiple namespaces that have
different, non-cooperating administrators.</t>
        <artwork><![CDATA[
        $ORIGIN .

        ; the INTERNAL top-level domain is delegated to nowhere, to
        ; facilitate its use in private namespaces

        INTERNAL  172800  IN  NS  .
]]></artwork>
      </section>
    </section>
    <section anchor="updates-to-rfc-1035">
      <name>Updates to RFC 1035</name>
      <t>This document updates <xref section="3.3.11" sectionFormat="of" target="RFC1035"/> as follows:</t>
      <ul empty="true">
        <li>
          <t><tt>NSDNAME</tt> <bcp14>MAY</bcp14> be specified as a single, zero-length label. An
NS RRSet that consists of a single NS resource record with empty
<tt>NSDNAME</tt> is used to indicate that a zone cut exists without
providing any authoritative nameservers for the child zone. The
purpose of such an RRSet is to confirm that the child zone
exists, but in a different namespace from the parent (e.g. in a
private namespace).</t>
        </li>
      </ul>
    </section>
    <section anchor="other_uses">
      <name>Other Uses of the Empty Name in the DNS</name>
      <t>In <xref target="RFC7505"/> an MX resource record with an empty target (called
<tt>EXCHANGE</tt> in <xref target="RFC1035"/>) is specified to mean that the corresponding
domain name does not accept e-mail. In effect, the empty field is
used to indicate that there is no host available to use for e-mail
delivery.</t>
      <t>In <xref target="RFC2782"/> an SRV 'Target of "." means that the service is
decidedly not available at this domain.'</t>
      <t><xref section="2.5" sectionFormat="comma" target="RFC9460"/> notes that 'For AliasMode SVCB RRs, a
TargetName of "." indicates that the service is not available or
does not exist.'</t>
      <t>These uses of the empty name are conceptually consistent with the
meaning defined in this document: that using an empty name is to
be interpreted as the corresponding function not being available.</t>
    </section>
    <section anchor="operational-considerations">
      <name>Operational Considerations</name>
      <t>The empty name is not known to have been widely used as an NS target,
although it has been used with other resource records, as described
in <xref target="other_uses"/>. It is a reasonable concern that if delegations
to nowhere became prevalent, or if names related to such zone cuts
were associated with significant traffic, some operational problem
might result. For example, DNS software that made incompatible
assumptions about DNS responses might fail, or harmful traffic to
root servers might result.</t>
      <t>Some experiments carried out by the authors to assess the likelihood
of such problems are described in <xref target="experiments"/>. The results of
those experiments do not suggest that the widespread use of delegations
to nowhere would lead to operational problems.</t>
    </section>
    <section anchor="security-considerations">
      <name>Security Considerations</name>
      <t>By explicitly signalling the existence of a private child zone, this mechanism
prevents DNSSEC-aware resolvers from erroneously caching authenticated denial
of existence (NSEC/NSEC3) records from the global namespace for private
subdomains. This allows a roaming, DNSSEC-aware resolver to maintain a
consistent chain of trust regardless of its vantage point. Consequently, this
unambiguous configuration offers better security and operational stability than
relying on split-horizon architectures without explicit parent-side signalling.</t>
    </section>
    <section anchor="iana-considerations">
      <name>IANA Considerations</name>
      <t>This document has no IANA actions.</t>
      <t>The example of the designated top-level domain <tt>INTERNAL</tt> being
provisioned as a delegation of <tt>INTERNAL</tt> to nowhere from the root
zone was intentionally chosen in order to make it clear that such
a configuration is allowed, is consistent with this specification
and facilitates the use of private namespaces named under such a
top-level domain with less ambiguity than might otherwise occur.
This document does not provide any operational direction to the
IANA, however.</t>
    </section>
  </middle>
  <back>
    <references anchor="sec-combined-references">
      <name>References</name>
      <references anchor="sec-normative-references">
        <name>Normative References</name>
        <reference anchor="RFC1034">
          <front>
            <title>Domain names - concepts and facilities</title>
            <author fullname="P. Mockapetris" initials="P." surname="Mockapetris"/>
            <date month="November" year="1987"/>
            <abstract>
              <t>This RFC is the revised basic definition of The Domain Name System. It obsoletes RFC-882. This memo describes the domain style names and their used for host address look up and electronic mail forwarding. It discusses the clients and servers in the domain name system and the protocol used between them.</t>
            </abstract>
          </front>
          <seriesInfo name="STD" value="13"/>
          <seriesInfo name="RFC" value="1034"/>
          <seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC1034"/>
        </reference>
        <reference anchor="RFC1035">
          <front>
            <title>Domain names - implementation and specification</title>
            <author fullname="P. Mockapetris" initials="P." surname="Mockapetris"/>
            <date month="November" year="1987"/>
            <abstract>
              <t>This RFC is the revised specification of the protocol and format used in the implementation of the Domain Name System. It obsoletes RFC-883. This memo documents the details of the domain name client - server communication.</t>
            </abstract>
          </front>
          <seriesInfo name="STD" value="13"/>
          <seriesInfo name="RFC" value="1035"/>
          <seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC1035"/>
        </reference>
        <reference anchor="RFC2119">
          <front>
            <title>Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate Requirement Levels</title>
            <author fullname="S. Bradner" initials="S." surname="Bradner"/>
            <date month="March" year="1997"/>
            <abstract>
              <t>In many standards track documents several words are used to signify the requirements in the specification. These words are often capitalized. This document defines these words as they should be interpreted in IETF documents. This document specifies an Internet Best Current Practices for the Internet Community, and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements.</t>
            </abstract>
          </front>
          <seriesInfo name="BCP" value="14"/>
          <seriesInfo name="RFC" value="2119"/>
          <seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC2119"/>
        </reference>
        <reference anchor="RFC8174">
          <front>
            <title>Ambiguity of Uppercase vs Lowercase in RFC 2119 Key Words</title>
            <author fullname="B. Leiba" initials="B." surname="Leiba"/>
            <date month="May" year="2017"/>
            <abstract>
              <t>RFC 2119 specifies common key words that may be used in protocol specifications. This document aims to reduce the ambiguity by clarifying that only UPPERCASE usage of the key words have the defined special meanings.</t>
            </abstract>
          </front>
          <seriesInfo name="BCP" value="14"/>
          <seriesInfo name="RFC" value="8174"/>
          <seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC8174"/>
        </reference>
        <reference anchor="RFC9499">
          <front>
            <title>DNS Terminology</title>
            <author fullname="P. Hoffman" initials="P." surname="Hoffman"/>
            <author fullname="K. Fujiwara" initials="K." surname="Fujiwara"/>
            <date month="March" year="2024"/>
            <abstract>
              <t>The Domain Name System (DNS) is defined in literally dozens of different RFCs. The terminology used by implementers and developers of DNS protocols, and by operators of DNS systems, has changed in the decades since the DNS was first defined. This document gives current definitions for many of the terms used in the DNS in a single document.</t>
              <t>This document updates RFC 2308 by clarifying the definitions of "forwarder" and "QNAME". It obsoletes RFC 8499 by adding multiple terms and clarifications. Comprehensive lists of changed and new definitions can be found in Appendices A and B.</t>
            </abstract>
          </front>
          <seriesInfo name="BCP" value="219"/>
          <seriesInfo name="RFC" value="9499"/>
          <seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC9499"/>
        </reference>
        <reference anchor="RFC4033">
          <front>
            <title>DNS Security Introduction and Requirements</title>
            <author fullname="R. Arends" initials="R." surname="Arends"/>
            <author fullname="R. Austein" initials="R." surname="Austein"/>
            <author fullname="M. Larson" initials="M." surname="Larson"/>
            <author fullname="D. Massey" initials="D." surname="Massey"/>
            <author fullname="S. Rose" initials="S." surname="Rose"/>
            <date month="March" year="2005"/>
            <abstract>
              <t>The Domain Name System Security Extensions (DNSSEC) add data origin authentication and data integrity to the Domain Name System. This document introduces these extensions and describes their capabilities and limitations. This document also discusses the services that the DNS security extensions do and do not provide. Last, this document describes the interrelationships between the documents that collectively describe DNSSEC. [STANDARDS-TRACK]</t>
            </abstract>
          </front>
          <seriesInfo name="RFC" value="4033"/>
          <seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC4033"/>
        </reference>
      </references>
      <references anchor="sec-informative-references">
        <name>Informative References</name>
        <reference anchor="Powers2006">
          <front>
            <title>Three Days to Never</title>
            <author initials="T." surname="Powers" fullname="Tim Powers">
              <organization/>
            </author>
            <date year="2006" month="August" day="08"/>
          </front>
          <refcontent>William Morrow &amp; Company, ISBN 978-0380976539</refcontent>
        </reference>
        <reference anchor="Byrne1985">
          <front>
            <title>Road to Nowhere</title>
            <author initials="D." surname="Byrne" fullname="David Byrne">
              <organization>Talking Heads</organization>
            </author>
            <date year="1985" month="June" day="03"/>
          </front>
          <refcontent>from the album "Little Creatures", Sire Records</refcontent>
        </reference>
        <reference anchor="Hardaker2026">
          <front>
            <title>Analyzing .internal to .dot</title>
            <author initials="W." surname="Hardaker" fullname="Wes Hardaker">
              <organization/>
            </author>
            <date year="2026" month="April" day="27"/>
          </front>
          <refcontent>https://ant.isi.edu/~hardaker/papers/2026-04-27-analyzing-dot-internal-to-dot.pdf</refcontent>
        </reference>
        <reference anchor="IEPG-IETF125">
          <front>
            <title>IEPG @ IETF 125 Meeting Recording</title>
            <author>
              <organization/>
            </author>
            <date>n.d.</date>
          </front>
          <refcontent>https://youtu.be/fGZj3SWi-OI?t=1772</refcontent>
        </reference>
        <reference anchor="RFC6762">
          <front>
            <title>Multicast DNS</title>
            <author fullname="S. Cheshire" initials="S." surname="Cheshire"/>
            <author fullname="M. Krochmal" initials="M." surname="Krochmal"/>
            <date month="February" year="2013"/>
            <abstract>
              <t>As networked devices become smaller, more portable, and more ubiquitous, the ability to operate with less configured infrastructure is increasingly important. In particular, the ability to look up DNS resource record data types (including, but not limited to, host names) in the absence of a conventional managed DNS server is useful.</t>
              <t>Multicast DNS (mDNS) provides the ability to perform DNS-like operations on the local link in the absence of any conventional Unicast DNS server. In addition, Multicast DNS designates a portion of the DNS namespace to be free for local use, without the need to pay any annual fee, and without the need to set up delegations or otherwise configure a conventional DNS server to answer for those names.</t>
              <t>The primary benefits of Multicast DNS names are that (i) they require little or no administration or configuration to set them up, (ii) they work when no infrastructure is present, and (iii) they work during infrastructure failures.</t>
            </abstract>
          </front>
          <seriesInfo name="RFC" value="6762"/>
          <seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC6762"/>
        </reference>
        <reference anchor="RFC9476">
          <front>
            <title>The .alt Special-Use Top-Level Domain</title>
            <author fullname="W. Kumari" initials="W." surname="Kumari"/>
            <author fullname="P. Hoffman" initials="P." surname="Hoffman"/>
            <date month="September" year="2023"/>
            <abstract>
              <t>This document reserves a Top-Level Domain (TLD) label "alt" to be used in non-DNS contexts. It also provides advice and guidance to developers creating alternative namespaces.</t>
            </abstract>
          </front>
          <seriesInfo name="RFC" value="9476"/>
          <seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC9476"/>
        </reference>
        <reference anchor="RFC7505">
          <front>
            <title>A "Null MX" No Service Resource Record for Domains That Accept No Mail</title>
            <author fullname="J. Levine" initials="J." surname="Levine"/>
            <author fullname="M. Delany" initials="M." surname="Delany"/>
            <date month="June" year="2015"/>
            <abstract>
              <t>Internet mail determines the address of a receiving server through the DNS, first by looking for an MX record and then by looking for an A/AAAA record as a fallback. Unfortunately, this means that the A/AAAA record is taken to be mail server address even when that address does not accept mail. The No Service MX RR, informally called "null MX", formalizes the existing mechanism by which a domain announces that it accepts no mail, without having to provide a mail server; this permits significant operational efficiencies.</t>
            </abstract>
          </front>
          <seriesInfo name="RFC" value="7505"/>
          <seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC7505"/>
        </reference>
        <reference anchor="RFC2782">
          <front>
            <title>A DNS RR for specifying the location of services (DNS SRV)</title>
            <author fullname="A. Gulbrandsen" initials="A." surname="Gulbrandsen"/>
            <author fullname="P. Vixie" initials="P." surname="Vixie"/>
            <author fullname="L. Esibov" initials="L." surname="Esibov"/>
            <date month="February" year="2000"/>
            <abstract>
              <t>This document describes a DNS RR which specifies the location of the server(s) for a specific protocol and domain. [STANDARDS-TRACK]</t>
            </abstract>
          </front>
          <seriesInfo name="RFC" value="2782"/>
          <seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC2782"/>
        </reference>
        <reference anchor="RFC9460">
          <front>
            <title>Service Binding and Parameter Specification via the DNS (SVCB and HTTPS Resource Records)</title>
            <author fullname="B. Schwartz" initials="B." surname="Schwartz"/>
            <author fullname="M. Bishop" initials="M." surname="Bishop"/>
            <author fullname="E. Nygren" initials="E." surname="Nygren"/>
            <date month="November" year="2023"/>
            <abstract>
              <t>This document specifies the "SVCB" ("Service Binding") and "HTTPS" DNS resource record (RR) types to facilitate the lookup of information needed to make connections to network services, such as for HTTP origins. SVCB records allow a service to be provided from multiple alternative endpoints, each with associated parameters (such as transport protocol configuration), and are extensible to support future uses (such as keys for encrypting the TLS ClientHello). They also enable aliasing of apex domains, which is not possible with CNAME. The HTTPS RR is a variation of SVCB for use with HTTP (see RFC 9110, "HTTP Semantics"). By providing more information to the client before it attempts to establish a connection, these records offer potential benefits to both performance and privacy.</t>
            </abstract>
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          <seriesInfo name="RFC" value="9460"/>
          <seriesInfo name="DOI" value="10.17487/RFC9460"/>
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      </references>
    </references>
    <?line 460?>

<section anchor="experiments">
      <name>Experiments</name>
      <t>Please see <xref target="Hardaker2026"/> for some real world testing of the use of
delegations to nowhere, and the IEPG recording of the discussion:
<xref target="IEPG-IETF125"/>.</t>
    </section>
    <section numbered="false" anchor="acknowledgments">
      <name>Acknowledgments</name>
      <t>The authors stand ready to acknowledge all contributions from their
friends and colleagues.</t>
      <t>The phrase "delegation to nowhere" was inspired by the misremebered
title of a novel by Tim Powers entitled "Two Days to Nowhere", in
which characters deal with ambiguous realities by way of supernatural
sensitivity, time travel and alcohol.  This seemed like a good
metaphor for the problem of provisioning overlapping namespaces in
the DNS.</t>
      <t>Unfortunately, it appears that Tim Powers wrote no such book,
although he did publish the similarly-named novel "Three Days to
Never" <xref target="Powers2006"/> which is perhaps what I was thinking of. And
it's certainly true that much of his writing features ambiguity,
the supernatural and excessive drinking. Memory is a tricky thing.</t>
      <t>The song "Road to Nowhere" <xref target="Byrne1985"/> from the 1985 Talking Heads
album "Little Creatures" would perhaps have been a better inspiration
for the terminology.  It's a shame that's not what happened.</t>
    </section>
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